I am sooo sick of hearing from people that punk is only this certain way or that... jesus christ! Punk music is a genre that rebels against main-stream pop culture. That's it! Just because a punk band might get popular because, oh, I DUNNO, they're GOOD doesn't mean that they automatically can't be called punk anymore. Look at Good Charlotte, Blink 182, Offspring.... so many freaking awesome punk bands have been dragged into the mainstream and aired on MTV, but their music and ideals never changed! Just because they got popular in America does NOT make them pop music. Chill out people, punk music is making a new revolution. Maybe if we're lucky it'll take over MTV and kick Britney and Justin off!